View Full Version : [D-Cal] Re: 89 T1 boost control NOT working.
Rob Lloyd
12-22-2005, 03:45 PM
I honestly don't know how much of an impact it has, but your vacuum
routing sounds different from the stock T1 routing.
The stock T1 goes from a nipple on the or housing (manifold
should work too), to a "T", one side of the "T" goes to the WG
actuator, the other to the normally open solenoid port. The ECU
closes the solenoid to open the WG.
It's backwards from the T2 WG routing. The T2 goes to the normally
closed port on the solenoid. The solenoid is opened to actuate the WG.
At least, that's my understanding.
The purpose of the restrictor is to keep from bleeding off too much
air. I agree with you that the size shouldn't make too much
difference.
-Rob
--- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
>
> Still in the same boat. Took a drive about 6 hrs away this weekend
and
> played with it on the way down. Had low boost set at 11psi and high
at
> 18psi. I can see the boost goal change on the scanner flipping the
> toggle switch. Multiplying the scanner's outputs by 3/2 like you
said
> would put them right around the boost settings in the cal so I
think
> that's right. I have a vac line coming off the intake, to a yellow
> restrictor ( I might try the factory red restrictor again although
I
> don't think that will help, I'll explain in a second), then a vac T
with
> one side going to the actuator and a line running to the solenoid.
The
> line attaches to the solenoid nipple that is normally closed. I'm
99.99%
> sure the vac lines are correct other than the restrictor which I
don't
> think is causing the issue. Ok my issue now is I can't get the
boost to
> come down! But it won't go up either. I goes up to about 16psi and
stays
> there. It was spiking a bit today which it didn't do on the trip.
I'm
> about to hook up the solenoid to the toggle and grainger it and see
if
> it works the caveman way. The scanner shows the solenoid working,
and
> it's air tight so if it would close off the boost should go down.
I'm
> kinda stumped about it. I'd really like to be able to adjust the
boost
> in the cal and get the toggles all wired up. Any idea's/help is
greatly
> appreciated. Thanks for checking in Rob.
>
>
> Later,
>
> Jay Jochec
>
> Rob Lloyd wrote:
>
> > Jay,
> >
> > Any updates on this? Did you get it working right?
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Rob Lloyd" <roblloyd@c...> wrote:
> > >
> > > 1st, you have to scale the boost you see on your scanner by 3/2
> > when
> > > running a 3-bar MAP. The scanner scales the boost for a 2-bar
MAP.
> > > So, your scanner is really showing 7.0psi (not 4.7) and 14.7psi
> > (not
> > > 9.8).
> > >
> > > 2nd, the boost control works by comparing all of the boost
lookup
> > > tables and using the SMALLEST of all the lookup values. The
> > > switchable function works by forcing the code to skip the "Low"
> > boost
> > > table lookup.
> > >
> > > So, you have to set all of the tables (except the "low" boost
> > table,
> > > obviously) to your "high" boost target. You can use a lower
setting
> > > for boost vs. speed, temperature, time, etc. just like ChryCo,
if
> > you
> > > want. Or, set them to the max, and it'll work like a G-Valve.
> > >
> > > Then set the "low" boost target to your low boost setting.
> > >
> > > You can't just set the "high" and "low" tables, you have to set
> > them
> > > all. I left the cals I posted with stock boost schedule (IIRC),
so
> > if
> > > you didn't modify the boost vs. speed, vs. time, etc. tables,
> > that's
> > > likely the cause for your low boost.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I'm running robs cal and cannot get the computer to give
me
> > > more
> > > > than 10psi. I've verified my wiring is correct and working
with a
> > > volt
> > > > meter, and through the scanner. My solenoid is working as well
> > and
> > > I
> > > > have the vac lines plumbed like 89 T1's do with a restrtrictor
> > > (spikes
> > > > 8-5psi depending on what restrictor is in it) a T with one
line
> > > going to
> > > > the actuator and one to the solenoid. The boost goal on my
> > scanner
> > > cals
> > > > for 4.7psi till about 3500rpms then jumps to 9.8. In the cal
> > boost
> > > is
> > > > set for 14psi. I should have all the tables maxed out and just
> > set
> > > the
> > > > boost levels where I want them in the high and low boost
tables
> > > > correct?? Anyone having these troubles???? Would really like
to
> > get
> > > this
> > > > sorted out as a Riced SRT4 wanted to play the other day and I
had
> > > to
> > > > look too cool to play knowing that 7-10psi wasn't going to
cut it.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again,
> > > >
> > > > Jay Jochec
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "....if you got turbo lag, you haven't installed a Gus
Valve!!!"
> > > > Jay Jochec
> > > >
> > > > http://www.turbomopar.com/oakley1/index.html
> > > > 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec. 95'
> > > issue of Sport Compact Car
> > > > Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> > > > 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882@1...! Yoko AVS
> > > Intermediates to 32psi
> > > > for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
> > > >
> > > > Spokane, Wa
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> Jay Jochec
>
> http://www.turbomopar.com/oakley1/index.html
> 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec. 95'
issue of Sport Compact Car
> Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882@1...! Yoko AVS
Intermediates to 32psi
> for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
>
> Spokane, Wa
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Jay Jochec
12-22-2005, 03:45 PM
I'll try the 3rd and final nipple. It's a bit hard when you're dealing
with 87 solenoids.
Jay Jochec
Rob Lloyd wrote:
> I honestly don't know how much of an impact it has, but your vacuum
> routing sounds different from the stock T1 routing.
>
> The stock T1 goes from a nipple on the or housing (manifold
> should work too), to a "T", one side of the "T" goes to the WG
> actuator, the other to the normally open solenoid port. The ECU
> closes the solenoid to open the WG.
>
> It's backwards from the T2 WG routing. The T2 goes to the normally
> closed port on the solenoid. The solenoid is opened to actuate the WG.
>
> At least, that's my understanding.
>
> The purpose of the restrictor is to keep from bleeding off too much
> air. I agree with you that the size shouldn't make too much
> difference.
>
> -Rob
>
> --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
> >
> > Still in the same boat. Took a drive about 6 hrs away this weekend
> and
> > played with it on the way down. Had low boost set at 11psi and high
> at
> > 18psi. I can see the boost goal change on the scanner flipping the
> > toggle switch. Multiplying the scanner's outputs by 3/2 like you
> said
> > would put them right around the boost settings in the cal so I
> think
> > that's right. I have a vac line coming off the intake, to a yellow
> > restrictor ( I might try the factory red restrictor again although
> I
> > don't think that will help, I'll explain in a second), then a vac T
> with
> > one side going to the actuator and a line running to the solenoid.
> The
> > line attaches to the solenoid nipple that is normally closed. I'm
> 99.99%
> > sure the vac lines are correct other than the restrictor which I
> don't
> > think is causing the issue. Ok my issue now is I can't get the
> boost to
> > come down! But it won't go up either. I goes up to about 16psi and
> stays
> > there. It was spiking a bit today which it didn't do on the trip.
> I'm
> > about to hook up the solenoid to the toggle and grainger it and see
> if
> > it works the caveman way. The scanner shows the solenoid working,
> and
> > it's air tight so if it would close off the boost should go down.
> I'm
> > kinda stumped about it. I'd really like to be able to adjust the
> boost
> > in the cal and get the toggles all wired up. Any idea's/help is
> greatly
> > appreciated. Thanks for checking in Rob.
> >
> >
> > Later,
> >
> > Jay Jochec
> >
> > Rob Lloyd wrote:
> >
> > > Jay,
> > >
> > > Any updates on this? Did you get it working right?
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Rob Lloyd" <roblloyd@c...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 1st, you have to scale the boost you see on your scanner by 3/2
> > > when
> > > > running a 3-bar MAP. The scanner scales the boost for a 2-bar
> MAP.
> > > > So, your scanner is really showing 7.0psi (not 4.7) and 14.7psi
> > > (not
> > > > 9.8).
> > > >
> > > > 2nd, the boost control works by comparing all of the boost
> lookup
> > > > tables and using the SMALLEST of all the lookup values. The
> > > > switchable function works by forcing the code to skip the "Low"
> > > boost
> > > > table lookup.
> > > >
> > > > So, you have to set all of the tables (except the "low" boost
> > > table,
> > > > obviously) to your "high" boost target. You can use a lower
> setting
> > > > for boost vs. speed, temperature, time, etc. just like ChryCo,
> if
> > > you
> > > > want. Or, set them to the max, and it'll work like a G-Valve.
> > > >
> > > > Then set the "low" boost target to your low boost setting.
> > > >
> > > > You can't just set the "high" and "low" tables, you have to set
> > > them
> > > > all. I left the cals I posted with stock boost schedule (IIRC),
> so
> > > if
> > > > you didn't modify the boost vs. speed, vs. time, etc. tables,
> > > that's
> > > > likely the cause for your low boost.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I'm running robs cal and cannot get the computer to give
> me
> > > > more
> > > > > than 10psi. I've verified my wiring is correct and working
> with a
> > > > volt
> > > > > meter, and through the scanner. My solenoid is working as well
> > > and
> > > > I
> > > > > have the vac lines plumbed like 89 T1's do with a restrtrictor
> > > > (spikes
> > > > > 8-5psi depending on what restrictor is in it) a T with one
> line
> > > > going to
> > > > > the actuator and one to the solenoid. The boost goal on my
> > > scanner
> > > > cals
> > > > > for 4.7psi till about 3500rpms then jumps to 9.8. In the cal
> > > boost
> > > > is
> > > > > set for 14psi. I should have all the tables maxed out and just
> > > set
> > > > the
> > > > > boost levels where I want them in the high and low boost
> tables
> > > > > correct?? Anyone having these troubles???? Would really like
> to
> > > get
> > > > this
> > > > > sorted out as a Riced SRT4 wanted to play the other day and I
> had
> > > > to
> > > > > look too cool to play knowing that 7-10psi wasn't going to
> cut it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jay Jochec
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > "....if you got turbo lag, you haven't installed a Gus
> Valve!!!"
> > > > > Jay Jochec
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.turbomopar.com/oakley1/index.html
> > > > > 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec. 95'
> > > > issue of Sport Compact Car
> > > > > Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> > > > > 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882@1...! Yoko AVS
> > > > Intermediates to 32psi
> > > > > for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
> > > > >
> > > > > Spokane, Wa
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > --
> > "....if you got turbo lag, you haven't installed a Gus Valve!!!"
> > Jay Jochec
> >
> > http://www.turbomopar.com/oakley1/index.html
> > 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec. 95'
> issue of Sport Compact Car
> > Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> > 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882@1...! Yoko AVS
> Intermediates to 32psi
> > for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
> >
> > Spokane, Wa
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Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882 (AT) 101 (DOT) 80! Yoko AVS Intermediates to 32psi
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James Reeves
12-22-2005, 03:45 PM
Make sure you are not using a barometric solenoid. They aren't the same as the regular firewall mounted solenoids.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Jochec
To: D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [D-Cal] Re: 89 T1 boost control NOT working.
I'll try the 3rd and final nipple. It's a bit hard when you're dealing
with 87 solenoids.
Jay Jochec
Rob Lloyd wrote:
> I honestly don't know how much of an impact it has, but your vacuum
> routing sounds different from the stock T1 routing.
>
> The stock T1 goes from a nipple on the or housing (manifold
> should work too), to a "T", one side of the "T" goes to the WG
> actuator, the other to the normally open solenoid port. The ECU
> closes the solenoid to open the WG.
>
> It's backwards from the T2 WG routing. The T2 goes to the normally
> closed port on the solenoid. The solenoid is opened to actuate the WG.
>
> At least, that's my understanding.
>
> The purpose of the restrictor is to keep from bleeding off too much
> air. I agree with you that the size shouldn't make too much
> difference.
>
> -Rob
>
> --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
> >
> > Still in the same boat. Took a drive about 6 hrs away this weekend
> and
> > played with it on the way down. Had low boost set at 11psi and high
> at
> > 18psi. I can see the boost goal change on the scanner flipping the
> > toggle switch. Multiplying the scanner's outputs by 3/2 like you
> said
> > would put them right around the boost settings in the cal so I
> think
> > that's right. I have a vac line coming off the intake, to a yellow
> > restrictor ( I might try the factory red restrictor again although
> I
> > don't think that will help, I'll explain in a second), then a vac T
> with
> > one side going to the actuator and a line running to the solenoid.
> The
> > line attaches to the solenoid nipple that is normally closed. I'm
> 99.99%
> > sure the vac lines are correct other than the restrictor which I
> don't
> > think is causing the issue. Ok my issue now is I can't get the
> boost to
> > come down! But it won't go up either. I goes up to about 16psi and
> stays
> > there. It was spiking a bit today which it didn't do on the trip.
> I'm
> > about to hook up the solenoid to the toggle and grainger it and see
> if
> > it works the caveman way. The scanner shows the solenoid working,
> and
> > it's air tight so if it would close off the boost should go down.
> I'm
> > kinda stumped about it. I'd really like to be able to adjust the
> boost
> > in the cal and get the toggles all wired up. Any idea's/help is
> greatly
> > appreciated. Thanks for checking in Rob.
> >
> >
> > Later,
> >
> > Jay Jochec
> >
> > Rob Lloyd wrote:
> >
> > > Jay,
> > >
> > > Any updates on this? Did you get it working right?
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Rob Lloyd" <roblloyd@c...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 1st, you have to scale the boost you see on your scanner by 3/2
> > > when
> > > > running a 3-bar MAP. The scanner scales the boost for a 2-bar
> MAP.
> > > > So, your scanner is really showing 7.0psi (not 4.7) and 14.7psi
> > > (not
> > > > 9.8).
> > > >
> > > > 2nd, the boost control works by comparing all of the boost
> lookup
> > > > tables and using the SMALLEST of all the lookup values. The
> > > > switchable function works by forcing the code to skip the "Low"
> > > boost
> > > > table lookup.
> > > >
> > > > So, you have to set all of the tables (except the "low" boost
> > > table,
> > > > obviously) to your "high" boost target. You can use a lower
> setting
> > > > for boost vs. speed, temperature, time, etc. just like ChryCo,
> if
> > > you
> > > > want. Or, set them to the max, and it'll work like a G-Valve.
> > > >
> > > > Then set the "low" boost target to your low boost setting.
> > > >
> > > > You can't just set the "high" and "low" tables, you have to set
> > > them
> > > > all. I left the cals I posted with stock boost schedule (IIRC),
> so
> > > if
> > > > you didn't modify the boost vs. speed, vs. time, etc. tables,
> > > that's
> > > > likely the cause for your low boost.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I'm running robs cal and cannot get the computer to give
> me
> > > > more
> > > > > than 10psi. I've verified my wiring is correct and working
> with a
> > > > volt
> > > > > meter, and through the scanner. My solenoid is working as well
> > > and
> > > > I
> > > > > have the vac lines plumbed like 89 T1's do with a restrtrictor
> > > > (spikes
> > > > > 8-5psi depending on what restrictor is in it) a T with one
> line
> > > > going to
> > > > > the actuator and one to the solenoid. The boost goal on my
> > > scanner
> > > > cals
> > > > > for 4.7psi till about 3500rpms then jumps to 9.8. In the cal
> > > boost
> > > > is
> > > > > set for 14psi. I should have all the tables maxed out and just
> > > set
> > > > the
> > > > > boost levels where I want them in the high and low boost
> tables
> > > > > correct?? Anyone having these troubles???? Would really like
> to
> > > get
> > > > this
> > > > > sorted out as a Riced SRT4 wanted to play the other day and I
> had
> > > > to
> > > > > look too cool to play knowing that 7-10psi wasn't going to
> cut it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jay Jochec
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > "....if you got turbo lag, you haven't installed a Gus
> Valve!!!"
> > > > > Jay Jochec
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.turbomopar.com/oakley1/index.html
> > > > > 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec. 95'
> > > > issue of Sport Compact Car
> > > > > Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> > > > > 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882@1...! Yoko AVS
> > > > Intermediates to 32psi
> > > > > for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
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Jay Jochec
12-22-2005, 03:45 PM
why aren't they the same? Reason I asked is I swapped the purge solenoid
to the baro's spot after I found the baro leaking. I'm using the 87 T2
wastegate solenoid for boost control.
Thanks,
Jay Jochec
James Reeves wrote:
> Make sure you are not using a barometric solenoid. They aren't the
> same as the regular firewall mounted solenoids.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jay Jochec
> To: D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [D-Cal] Re: 89 T1 boost control NOT working.
>
>
> I'll try the 3rd and final nipple. It's a bit hard when you're dealing
> with 87 solenoids.
>
> Jay Jochec
>
> Rob Lloyd wrote:
>
> > I honestly don't know how much of an impact it has, but your vacuum
> > routing sounds different from the stock T1 routing.
> >
> > The stock T1 goes from a nipple on the or housing (manifold
> > should work too), to a "T", one side of the "T" goes to the WG
> > actuator, the other to the normally open solenoid port. The ECU
> > closes the solenoid to open the WG.
> >
> > It's backwards from the T2 WG routing. The T2 goes to the normally
> > closed port on the solenoid. The solenoid is opened to actuate the WG.
> >
> > At least, that's my understanding.
> >
> > The purpose of the restrictor is to keep from bleeding off too much
> > air. I agree with you that the size shouldn't make too much
> > difference.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Still in the same boat. Took a drive about 6 hrs away this weekend
> > and
> > > played with it on the way down. Had low boost set at 11psi and high
> > at
> > > 18psi. I can see the boost goal change on the scanner flipping the
> > > toggle switch. Multiplying the scanner's outputs by 3/2 like you
> > said
> > > would put them right around the boost settings in the cal so I
> > think
> > > that's right. I have a vac line coming off the intake, to a yellow
> > > restrictor ( I might try the factory red restrictor again although
> > I
> > > don't think that will help, I'll explain in a second), then a vac T
> > with
> > > one side going to the actuator and a line running to the solenoid.
> > The
> > > line attaches to the solenoid nipple that is normally closed. I'm
> > 99.99%
> > > sure the vac lines are correct other than the restrictor which I
> > don't
> > > think is causing the issue. Ok my issue now is I can't get the
> > boost to
> > > come down! But it won't go up either. I goes up to about 16psi and
> > stays
> > > there. It was spiking a bit today which it didn't do on the trip.
> > I'm
> > > about to hook up the solenoid to the toggle and grainger it and see
> > if
> > > it works the caveman way. The scanner shows the solenoid working,
> > and
> > > it's air tight so if it would close off the boost should go down.
> > I'm
> > > kinda stumped about it. I'd really like to be able to adjust the
> > boost
> > > in the cal and get the toggles all wired up. Any idea's/help is
> > greatly
> > > appreciated. Thanks for checking in Rob.
> > >
> > >
> > > Later,
> > >
> > > Jay Jochec
> > >
> > > Rob Lloyd wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jay,
> > > >
> > > > Any updates on this? Did you get it working right?
> > > >
> > > > -Rob
> > > >
> > > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Rob Lloyd" <roblloyd@c...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1st, you have to scale the boost you see on your scanner by 3/2
> > > > when
> > > > > running a 3-bar MAP. The scanner scales the boost for a 2-bar
> > MAP.
> > > > > So, your scanner is really showing 7.0psi (not 4.7) and 14.7psi
> > > > (not
> > > > > 9.8).
> > > > >
> > > > > 2nd, the boost control works by comparing all of the boost
> > lookup
> > > > > tables and using the SMALLEST of all the lookup values. The
> > > > > switchable function works by forcing the code to skip the "Low"
> > > > boost
> > > > > table lookup.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, you have to set all of the tables (except the "low" boost
> > > > table,
> > > > > obviously) to your "high" boost target. You can use a lower
> > setting
> > > > > for boost vs. speed, temperature, time, etc. just like ChryCo,
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > > want. Or, set them to the max, and it'll work like a G-Valve.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then set the "low" boost target to your low boost setting.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't just set the "high" and "low" tables, you have to set
> > > > them
> > > > > all. I left the cals I posted with stock boost schedule (IIRC),
> > so
> > > > if
> > > > > you didn't modify the boost vs. speed, vs. time, etc. tables,
> > > > that's
> > > > > likely the cause for your low boost.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I'm running robs cal and cannot get the computer to give
> > me
> > > > > more
> > > > > > than 10psi. I've verified my wiring is correct and working
> > with a
> > > > > volt
> > > > > > meter, and through the scanner. My solenoid is working as well
> > > > and
> > > > > I
> > > > > > have the vac lines plumbed like 89 T1's do with a restrtrictor
> > > > > (spikes
> > > > > > 8-5psi depending on what restrictor is in it) a T with one
> > line
> > > > > going to
> > > > > > the actuator and one to the solenoid. The boost goal on my
> > > > scanner
> > > > > cals
> > > > > > for 4.7psi till about 3500rpms then jumps to 9.8. In the cal
> > > > boost
> > > > > is
> > > > > > set for 14psi. I should have all the tables maxed out and just
> > > > set
> > > > > the
> > > > > > boost levels where I want them in the high and low boost
> > tables
> > > > > > correct?? Anyone having these troubles???? Would really like
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > this
> > > > > > sorted out as a Riced SRT4 wanted to play the other day and I
> > had
> > > > > to
> > > > > > look too cool to play knowing that 7-10psi wasn't going to
> > cut it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jay Jochec
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.turbomopar.com/oakley1/index.html
> > > > > > 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec. 95'
> > > > > issue of Sport Compact Car
> > > > > > Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> > > > > > 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882@1...! Yoko AVS
> > > > > Intermediates to 32psi
> > > > > > for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
> > > > > >
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> Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882 (AT) 101 (DOT) 80! Yoko AVS
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Jason@Carbotron
12-22-2005, 03:45 PM
have you tested the solenoids with 12v? just use a jumper from the
battery. if that works, put your voltmeter on the wastegate solenoid
signal lines, and use your trusty grainger for actual boost control,
check for voltage. check that the solenoid is actually getting vacuum
as well! i personally use the huge vac line's babby nipple on the brake
booster check valve. but then the stock vacuum/boost routing is
retarded. if that all works, mebe the code is muddled and you have
accidentallyput some crazy number in, mebe chex0r your hex0r, you
h4x0r.
-Jason Economou
Carbotron Composites
kradcarbon.com
On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:07 PM, James Reeves wrote:
Make sure you are not using a barometric solenoid.Â@ They aren't the
same as the regular firewall mounted solenoids.
Â@ ----- Original Message -----
Â@ From: Jay Jochec
Â@ To: D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Â@ Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:31 AM
Â@ Subject: Re: [D-Cal] Re: 89 T1 boost control NOT working.
Â@ I'll try the 3rd and final nipple. It's a bit hard when you're
dealing
Â@ with 87 solenoids.
Â@ Jay Jochec
Â@ Rob Lloyd wrote:
Â@ > I honestly don't know how much of an impact it has, but your vacuum
Â@ > routing sounds different from the stock T1 routing.
Â@ >
Â@ > The stock T1 goes from a nipple on theÂ@Â@Â@Â@Â@Â@Â@Â@ or housing (manifold
Â@ > should work too), to a "T", one side of the "T" goes to the WG
Â@ > actuator, the other to the normally open solenoid port. The ECU
Â@ > closes the solenoid to open the WG.
Â@ >
Â@ > It's backwards from the T2 WG routing. The T2 goes to the normally
Â@ > closed port on the solenoid. The solenoid is opened to actuate the
WG.
Â@ >
Â@ > At least, that's my understanding.
Â@ >
Â@ > The purpose of the restrictor is to keep from bleeding off too much
Â@ > air. I agree with you that the size shouldn't make too much
Â@ > difference.
Â@ >
Â@ > -Rob
Â@ >
Â@ > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
Â@ > >
Â@ > > Still in the same boat. Took a drive about 6 hrs away this
weekend
Â@ > and
Â@ > > played with it on the way down. Had low boost set at 11psi and
high
Â@ > at
Â@ > > 18psi. I can see the boost goal change on the scanner flipping
the
Â@ > > toggle switch. Multiplying the scanner's outputs by 3/2 like you
Â@ > said
Â@ > > would put them right around the boost settings in the cal so I
Â@ > think
Â@ > > that's right. I have a vac line coming off the intake, to a
yellow
Â@ > > restrictorÂ@ ( I might try the factory red restrictor again
although
Â@ > I
Â@ > > don't think that will help, I'll explain in a second), then a
vac T
Â@ > with
Â@ > > one side going to the actuator and a line running to the
solenoid.
Â@ > The
Â@ > > line attaches to the solenoid nipple that is normally closed. I'm
Â@ > 99.99%
Â@ > > sure the vac lines are correct other than the restrictor which I
Â@ > don't
Â@ > > think is causing the issue. Ok my issue now is I can't get the
Â@ > boost to
Â@ > > come down! But it won't go up either. I goes up to about 16psi
and
Â@ > stays
Â@ > > there. It was spiking a bit today which it didn't do on the trip.
Â@ > I'm
Â@ > > about to hook up the solenoid to the toggle and grainger it and
see
Â@ > if
Â@ > > it works the caveman way. The scanner shows the solenoid working,
Â@ > and
Â@ > > it's air tight so if it would close off the boost should go down.
Â@ > I'm
Â@ > > kinda stumped about it. I'd really like to be able to adjust the
Â@ > boost
Â@ > > in the cal and get the toggles all wired up. Any idea's/help is
Â@ > greatly
Â@ > > appreciated. Thanks for checking in Rob.
Â@ > >
Â@ > >
Â@ > > Later,
Â@ > >
Â@ > > Jay Jochec
Â@ > >
Â@ > > Rob Lloyd wrote:
Â@ > >
Â@ > > > Jay,
Â@ > > >
Â@ > > > Any updates on this? Did you get it working right?
Â@ > > >
Â@ > > > -Rob
Â@ > > >
Â@ > > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Rob Lloyd" <roblloyd@c...>
wrote:
Â@ > > > >
Â@ > > > > 1st, you have to scale the boost you see on your scanner by
3/2
Â@ > > > when
Â@ > > > > running a 3-bar MAP. The scanner scales the boost for a 2-bar
Â@ > MAP.
Â@ > > > > So, your scanner is really showing 7.0psi (not 4.7) and
14.7psi
Â@ > > > (not
Â@ > > > > 9.8).
Â@ > > > >
Â@ > > > > 2nd, the boost control works by comparing all of the boost
Â@ > lookup
Â@ > > > > tables and using the SMALLEST of all the lookup values. The
Â@ > > > > switchable function works by forcing the code to skip the
"Low"
Â@ > > > boost
Â@ > > > > table lookup.
Â@ > > > >
Â@ > > > > So, you have to set all of the tables (except the "low" boost
Â@ > > > table,
Â@ > > > > obviously) to your "high" boost target. You can use a lower
Â@ > setting
Â@ > > > > for boost vs. speed, temperature, time, etc. just like
ChryCo,
Â@ > if
Â@ > > > you
Â@ > > > > want. Or, set them to the max, and it'll work like a G-Valve.
Â@ > > > >
Â@ > > > > Then set the "low" boost target to your low boost setting.
Â@ > > > >
Â@ > > > > You can't just set the "high" and "low" tables, you have to
set
Â@ > > > them
Â@ > > > > all. I left the cals I posted with stock boost schedule
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Â@ > > > > > Hi,
Â@ > > > > >Â@Â@Â@Â@ I'm running robs cal and cannot get the computer to
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Â@ > > > > > than 10psi. I've verified my wiring is correct and working
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Â@ > > > > volt
Â@ > > > > > meter, and through the scanner. My solenoid is working as
well
Â@ > > > and
Â@ > > > > I
Â@ > > > > > have the vac lines plumbed like 89 T1's do with a
restrtrictor
Â@ > > > > (spikes
Â@ > > > > > 8-5psi depending on what restrictor is in it) a T with one
Â@ > line
Â@ > > > > going to
Â@ > > > > > the actuator and one to the solenoid. The boost goal on my
Â@ > > > scanner
Â@ > > > > cals
Â@ > > > > > for 4.7psi till about 3500rpms then jumps to 9.8. In the
cal
Â@ > > > boost
Â@ > > > > is
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just
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Â@ > tables
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Â@ > > > > this
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Â@ > had
Â@ > > > > to
Â@ > > > > > look too cool to play knowing that 7-10psi wasn't going to
Â@ > cut it.
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Jay Jochec
12-22-2005, 03:45 PM
I can switch the solenoid on and off with the scanner. It does hold
vacuum/pressure. I'm trying to get away from the grainger as I want 2
boost levels and don't want grainger's and soleoids hanging out in the
air. Also with the solenoid controlling it I can ramp boost so I only
have a few psi at 3/4 throttle and max boost at full throttle. Lots of
advantages to getting the solenoid to control it.
Thanks,
Jay Jochec
Jason@Carbotron wrote:
> have you tested the solenoids with 12v? just use a jumper from the
> battery. if that works, put your voltmeter on the wastegate solenoid
> signal lines, and use your trusty grainger for actual boost control,
> check for voltage. check that the solenoid is actually getting vacuum
> as well! i personally use the huge vac line's babby nipple on the brake
> booster check valve. but then the stock vacuum/boost routing is
> retarded. if that all works, mebe the code is muddled and you have
> accidentallyput some crazy number in, mebe chex0r your hex0r, you
> h4x0r.
>
> -Jason Economou
> Carbotron Composites
> kradcarbon.com
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:07 PM, James Reeves wrote:
>
> Make sure you are not using a barometric solenoid. They aren't the
> same as the regular firewall mounted solenoids.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jay Jochec
> To: D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [D-Cal] Re: 89 T1 boost control NOT working.
>
>
> I'll try the 3rd and final nipple. It's a bit hard when you're
> dealing
> with 87 solenoids.
>
> Jay Jochec
>
> Rob Lloyd wrote:
>
> > I honestly don't know how much of an impact it has, but your vacuum
> > routing sounds different from the stock T1 routing.
> >
> > The stock T1 goes from a nipple on the or housing (manifold
> > should work too), to a "T", one side of the "T" goes to the WG
> > actuator, the other to the normally open solenoid port. The ECU
> > closes the solenoid to open the WG.
> >
> > It's backwards from the T2 WG routing. The T2 goes to the normally
> > closed port on the solenoid. The solenoid is opened to actuate the
> WG.
> >
> > At least, that's my understanding.
> >
> > The purpose of the restrictor is to keep from bleeding off too much
> > air. I agree with you that the size shouldn't make too much
> > difference.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Still in the same boat. Took a drive about 6 hrs away this
> weekend
> > and
> > > played with it on the way down. Had low boost set at 11psi and
> high
> > at
> > > 18psi. I can see the boost goal change on the scanner flipping
> the
> > > toggle switch. Multiplying the scanner's outputs by 3/2 like you
> > said
> > > would put them right around the boost settings in the cal so I
> > think
> > > that's right. I have a vac line coming off the intake, to a
> yellow
> > > restrictor ( I might try the factory red restrictor again
> although
> > I
> > > don't think that will help, I'll explain in a second), then a
> vac T
> > with
> > > one side going to the actuator and a line running to the
> solenoid.
> > The
> > > line attaches to the solenoid nipple that is normally closed. I'm
> > 99.99%
> > > sure the vac lines are correct other than the restrictor which I
> > don't
> > > think is causing the issue. Ok my issue now is I can't get the
> > boost to
> > > come down! But it won't go up either. I goes up to about 16psi
> and
> > stays
> > > there. It was spiking a bit today which it didn't do on the trip.
> > I'm
> > > about to hook up the solenoid to the toggle and grainger it and
> see
> > if
> > > it works the caveman way. The scanner shows the solenoid working,
> > and
> > > it's air tight so if it would close off the boost should go down.
> > I'm
> > > kinda stumped about it. I'd really like to be able to adjust the
> > boost
> > > in the cal and get the toggles all wired up. Any idea's/help is
> > greatly
> > > appreciated. Thanks for checking in Rob.
> > >
> > >
> > > Later,
> > >
> > > Jay Jochec
> > >
> > > Rob Lloyd wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jay,
> > > >
> > > > Any updates on this? Did you get it working right?
> > > >
> > > > -Rob
> > > >
> > > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Rob Lloyd" <roblloyd@c...>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1st, you have to scale the boost you see on your scanner by
> 3/2
> > > > when
> > > > > running a 3-bar MAP. The scanner scales the boost for a 2-bar
> > MAP.
> > > > > So, your scanner is really showing 7.0psi (not 4.7) and
> 14.7psi
> > > > (not
> > > > > 9.8).
> > > > >
> > > > > 2nd, the boost control works by comparing all of the boost
> > lookup
> > > > > tables and using the SMALLEST of all the lookup values. The
> > > > > switchable function works by forcing the code to skip the
> "Low"
> > > > boost
> > > > > table lookup.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, you have to set all of the tables (except the "low" boost
> > > > table,
> > > > > obviously) to your "high" boost target. You can use a lower
> > setting
> > > > > for boost vs. speed, temperature, time, etc. just like
> ChryCo,
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > > want. Or, set them to the max, and it'll work like a G-Valve.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then set the "low" boost target to your low boost setting.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't just set the "high" and "low" tables, you have to
> set
> > > > them
> > > > > all. I left the cals I posted with stock boost schedule
> (IIRC),
> > so
> > > > if
> > > > > you didn't modify the boost vs. speed, vs. time, etc. tables,
> > > > that's
> > > > > likely the cause for your low boost.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I'm running robs cal and cannot get the computer to
> give
> > me
> > > > > more
> > > > > > than 10psi. I've verified my wiring is correct and working
> > with a
> > > > > volt
> > > > > > meter, and through the scanner. My solenoid is working as
> well
> > > > and
> > > > > I
> > > > > > have the vac lines plumbed like 89 T1's do with a
> restrtrictor
> > > > > (spikes
> > > > > > 8-5psi depending on what restrictor is in it) a T with one
> > line
> > > > > going to
> > > > > > the actuator and one to the solenoid. The boost goal on my
> > > > scanner
> > > > > cals
> > > > > > for 4.7psi till about 3500rpms then jumps to 9.8. In the
> cal
> > > > boost
> > > > > is
> > > > > > set for 14psi. I should have all the tables maxed out and
> just
> > > > set
> > > > > the
> > > > > > boost levels where I want them in the high and low boost
> > tables
> > > > > > correct?? Anyone having these troubles???? Would really
> like
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > this
> > > > > > sorted out as a Riced SRT4 wanted to play the other day
> and I
> > had
> > > > > to
> > > > > > look too cool to play knowing that 7-10psi wasn't going to
> > cut it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jay Jochec
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.turbomopar.com/oakley1/index.html
> > > > > > 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec.
> 95'
> > > > > issue of Sport Compact Car
> > > > > > Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> > > > > > 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882@1...! Yoko AVS
> > > > > Intermediates to 32psi
> > > > > > for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Spokane, Wa
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> Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882 (AT) 101 (DOT) 80! Yoko AVS
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12-22-2005, 03:45 PM
The vent on the baro solenoid has a check valve in it (ball and spring) It can't vent, it can only suck in if I remember right. I know they are different!
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To: D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [D-Cal] Re: 89 T1 boost control NOT working.
why aren't they the same? Reason I asked is I swapped the purge solenoid
to the baro's spot after I found the baro leaking. I'm using the 87 T2
wastegate solenoid for boost control.
Thanks,
Jay Jochec
James Reeves wrote:
> Make sure you are not using a barometric solenoid. They aren't the
> same as the regular firewall mounted solenoids.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jay Jochec
> To: D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [D-Cal] Re: 89 T1 boost control NOT working.
>
>
> I'll try the 3rd and final nipple. It's a bit hard when you're dealing
> with 87 solenoids.
>
> Jay Jochec
>
> Rob Lloyd wrote:
>
> > I honestly don't know how much of an impact it has, but your vacuum
> > routing sounds different from the stock T1 routing.
> >
> > The stock T1 goes from a nipple on the or housing (manifold
> > should work too), to a "T", one side of the "T" goes to the WG
> > actuator, the other to the normally open solenoid port. The ECU
> > closes the solenoid to open the WG.
> >
> > It's backwards from the T2 WG routing. The T2 goes to the normally
> > closed port on the solenoid. The solenoid is opened to actuate the WG.
> >
> > At least, that's my understanding.
> >
> > The purpose of the restrictor is to keep from bleeding off too much
> > air. I agree with you that the size shouldn't make too much
> > difference.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Still in the same boat. Took a drive about 6 hrs away this weekend
> > and
> > > played with it on the way down. Had low boost set at 11psi and high
> > at
> > > 18psi. I can see the boost goal change on the scanner flipping the
> > > toggle switch. Multiplying the scanner's outputs by 3/2 like you
> > said
> > > would put them right around the boost settings in the cal so I
> > think
> > > that's right. I have a vac line coming off the intake, to a yellow
> > > restrictor ( I might try the factory red restrictor again although
> > I
> > > don't think that will help, I'll explain in a second), then a vac T
> > with
> > > one side going to the actuator and a line running to the solenoid.
> > The
> > > line attaches to the solenoid nipple that is normally closed. I'm
> > 99.99%
> > > sure the vac lines are correct other than the restrictor which I
> > don't
> > > think is causing the issue. Ok my issue now is I can't get the
> > boost to
> > > come down! But it won't go up either. I goes up to about 16psi and
> > stays
> > > there. It was spiking a bit today which it didn't do on the trip.
> > I'm
> > > about to hook up the solenoid to the toggle and grainger it and see
> > if
> > > it works the caveman way. The scanner shows the solenoid working,
> > and
> > > it's air tight so if it would close off the boost should go down.
> > I'm
> > > kinda stumped about it. I'd really like to be able to adjust the
> > boost
> > > in the cal and get the toggles all wired up. Any idea's/help is
> > greatly
> > > appreciated. Thanks for checking in Rob.
> > >
> > >
> > > Later,
> > >
> > > Jay Jochec
> > >
> > > Rob Lloyd wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jay,
> > > >
> > > > Any updates on this? Did you get it working right?
> > > >
> > > > -Rob
> > > >
> > > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Rob Lloyd" <roblloyd@c...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1st, you have to scale the boost you see on your scanner by 3/2
> > > > when
> > > > > running a 3-bar MAP. The scanner scales the boost for a 2-bar
> > MAP.
> > > > > So, your scanner is really showing 7.0psi (not 4.7) and 14.7psi
> > > > (not
> > > > > 9.8).
> > > > >
> > > > > 2nd, the boost control works by comparing all of the boost
> > lookup
> > > > > tables and using the SMALLEST of all the lookup values. The
> > > > > switchable function works by forcing the code to skip the "Low"
> > > > boost
> > > > > table lookup.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, you have to set all of the tables (except the "low" boost
> > > > table,
> > > > > obviously) to your "high" boost target. You can use a lower
> > setting
> > > > > for boost vs. speed, temperature, time, etc. just like ChryCo,
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > > want. Or, set them to the max, and it'll work like a G-Valve.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then set the "low" boost target to your low boost setting.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't just set the "high" and "low" tables, you have to set
> > > > them
> > > > > all. I left the cals I posted with stock boost schedule (IIRC),
> > so
> > > > if
> > > > > you didn't modify the boost vs. speed, vs. time, etc. tables,
> > > > that's
> > > > > likely the cause for your low boost.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I'm running robs cal and cannot get the computer to give
> > me
> > > > > more
> > > > > > than 10psi. I've verified my wiring is correct and working
> > with a
> > > > > volt
> > > > > > meter, and through the scanner. My solenoid is working as well
> > > > and
> > > > > I
> > > > > > have the vac lines plumbed like 89 T1's do with a restrtrictor
> > > > > (spikes
> > > > > > 8-5psi depending on what restrictor is in it) a T with one
> > line
> > > > > going to
> > > > > > the actuator and one to the solenoid. The boost goal on my
> > > > scanner
> > > > > cals
> > > > > > for 4.7psi till about 3500rpms then jumps to 9.8. In the cal
> > > > boost
> > > > > is
> > > > > > set for 14psi. I should have all the tables maxed out and just
> > > > set
> > > > > the
> > > > > > boost levels where I want them in the high and low boost
> > tables
> > > > > > correct?? Anyone having these troubles???? Would really like
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > this
> > > > > > sorted out as a Riced SRT4 wanted to play the other day and I
> > had
> > > > > to
> > > > > > look too cool to play knowing that 7-10psi wasn't going to
> > cut it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jay Jochec
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
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> > > > > > --
> > > > > > "....if you got turbo lag, you haven't installed a Gus
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> > > > > > Jay Jochec
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.turbomopar.com/oakley1/index.html
> > > > > > 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec. 95'
> > > > > issue of Sport Compact Car
> > > > > > Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> > > > > > 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882@1...! Yoko AVS
> > > > > Intermediates to 32psi
> > > > > > for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
> > > > > >
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> 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec. 95' issue
> of Sport Compact Car
> Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882 (AT) 101 (DOT) 80! Yoko AVS
> Intermediates to 32psi
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Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882 (AT) 101 (DOT) 80! Yoko AVS Intermediates to 32psi
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Jay Jochec
12-22-2005, 03:45 PM
I'll have to look into that. Let ya know what I find out.
Thanks,
Jay Jochec
James Reeves wrote:
> The vent on the baro solenoid has a check valve in it (ball and
> spring) It can't vent, it can only suck in if I remember right. I
> know they are different!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jay Jochec
> To: D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [D-Cal] Re: 89 T1 boost control NOT working.
>
>
> why aren't they the same? Reason I asked is I swapped the purge
> solenoid
> to the baro's spot after I found the baro leaking. I'm using the 87 T2
> wastegate solenoid for boost control.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay Jochec
>
> James Reeves wrote:
>
> > Make sure you are not using a barometric solenoid. They aren't the
> > same as the regular firewall mounted solenoids.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jay Jochec
> > To: D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [D-Cal] Re: 89 T1 boost control NOT working.
> >
> >
> > I'll try the 3rd and final nipple. It's a bit hard when you're
> dealing
> > with 87 solenoids.
> >
> > Jay Jochec
> >
> > Rob Lloyd wrote:
> >
> > > I honestly don't know how much of an impact it has, but your
> vacuum
> > > routing sounds different from the stock T1 routing.
> > >
> > > The stock T1 goes from a nipple on the or housing
> (manifold
> > > should work too), to a "T", one side of the "T" goes to the WG
> > > actuator, the other to the normally open solenoid port. The ECU
> > > closes the solenoid to open the WG.
> > >
> > > It's backwards from the T2 WG routing. The T2 goes to the normally
> > > closed port on the solenoid. The solenoid is opened to actuate
> the WG.
> > >
> > > At least, that's my understanding.
> > >
> > > The purpose of the restrictor is to keep from bleeding off too
> much
> > > air. I agree with you that the size shouldn't make too much
> > > difference.
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Still in the same boat. Took a drive about 6 hrs away this
> weekend
> > > and
> > > > played with it on the way down. Had low boost set at 11psi
> and high
> > > at
> > > > 18psi. I can see the boost goal change on the scanner
> flipping the
> > > > toggle switch. Multiplying the scanner's outputs by 3/2 like you
> > > said
> > > > would put them right around the boost settings in the cal so I
> > > think
> > > > that's right. I have a vac line coming off the intake, to a
> yellow
> > > > restrictor ( I might try the factory red restrictor again
> although
> > > I
> > > > don't think that will help, I'll explain in a second), then
> a vac T
> > > with
> > > > one side going to the actuator and a line running to the
> solenoid.
> > > The
> > > > line attaches to the solenoid nipple that is normally
> closed. I'm
> > > 99.99%
> > > > sure the vac lines are correct other than the restrictor which I
> > > don't
> > > > think is causing the issue. Ok my issue now is I can't get the
> > > boost to
> > > > come down! But it won't go up either. I goes up to about
> 16psi and
> > > stays
> > > > there. It was spiking a bit today which it didn't do on the
> trip.
> > > I'm
> > > > about to hook up the solenoid to the toggle and grainger it
> and see
> > > if
> > > > it works the caveman way. The scanner shows the solenoid
> working,
> > > and
> > > > it's air tight so if it would close off the boost should go
> down.
> > > I'm
> > > > kinda stumped about it. I'd really like to be able to adjust the
> > > boost
> > > > in the cal and get the toggles all wired up. Any idea's/help is
> > > greatly
> > > > appreciated. Thanks for checking in Rob.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Later,
> > > >
> > > > Jay Jochec
> > > >
> > > > Rob Lloyd wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Jay,
> > > > >
> > > > > Any updates on this? Did you get it working right?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rob
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Rob Lloyd" <roblloyd@c...>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1st, you have to scale the boost you see on your scanner
> by 3/2
> > > > > when
> > > > > > running a 3-bar MAP. The scanner scales the boost for a
> 2-bar
> > > MAP.
> > > > > > So, your scanner is really showing 7.0psi (not 4.7) and
> 14.7psi
> > > > > (not
> > > > > > 9.8).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2nd, the boost control works by comparing all of the boost
> > > lookup
> > > > > > tables and using the SMALLEST of all the lookup values. The
> > > > > > switchable function works by forcing the code to skip
> the "Low"
> > > > > boost
> > > > > > table lookup.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, you have to set all of the tables (except the "low"
> boost
> > > > > table,
> > > > > > obviously) to your "high" boost target. You can use a lower
> > > setting
> > > > > > for boost vs. speed, temperature, time, etc. just like
> ChryCo,
> > > if
> > > > > you
> > > > > > want. Or, set them to the max, and it'll work like a
> G-Valve.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then set the "low" boost target to your low boost setting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't just set the "high" and "low" tables, you have
> to set
> > > > > them
> > > > > > all. I left the cals I posted with stock boost schedule
> (IIRC),
> > > so
> > > > > if
> > > > > > you didn't modify the boost vs. speed, vs. time, etc.
> tables,
> > > > > that's
> > > > > > likely the cause for your low boost.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Rob
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In D-Cal (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Jay Jochec <Oakley1@i...>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > I'm running robs cal and cannot get the computer
> to give
> > > me
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > than 10psi. I've verified my wiring is correct and working
> > > with a
> > > > > > volt
> > > > > > > meter, and through the scanner. My solenoid is working
> as well
> > > > > and
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > have the vac lines plumbed like 89 T1's do with a
> restrtrictor
> > > > > > (spikes
> > > > > > > 8-5psi depending on what restrictor is in it) a T with one
> > > line
> > > > > > going to
> > > > > > > the actuator and one to the solenoid. The boost goal on my
> > > > > scanner
> > > > > > cals
> > > > > > > for 4.7psi till about 3500rpms then jumps to 9.8. In
> the cal
> > > > > boost
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > set for 14psi. I should have all the tables maxed out
> and just
> > > > > set
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > boost levels where I want them in the high and low boost
> > > tables
> > > > > > > correct?? Anyone having these troubles???? Would
> really like
> > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > sorted out as a Riced SRT4 wanted to play the other
> day and I
> > > had
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > look too cool to play knowing that 7-10psi wasn't going to
> > > cut it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jay Jochec
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > "....if you got turbo lag, you haven't installed a Gus
> > > Valve!!!"
> > > > > > > Jay Jochec
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.turbomopar.com/oakley1/index.html
> > > > > > > 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the
> Dec. 95'
> > > > > > issue of Sport Compact Car
> > > > > > > Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> > > > > > > 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882@1...! Yoko AVS
> > > > > > Intermediates to 32psi
> > > > > > > for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Spokane, Wa
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882@1...! Yoko AVS
> > > Intermediates to 32psi
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> > 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec. 95'
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> > of Sport Compact Car
> > Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> > 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882 (AT) 101 (DOT) 80! Yoko AVS
> > Intermediates to 32psi
> > for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
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> Jay Jochec
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> 85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec. 95' issue
> of Sport Compact Car
> Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
> 87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882 (AT) 101 (DOT) 80! Yoko AVS
> Intermediates to 32psi
> for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
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"....if you got turbo lag, you haven't installed a Gus Valve!!!"
Jay Jochec
http://www.turbomopar.com/oakley1/index.html
85' GLHT "GLHNSLH" The exact same one pictured in the Dec. 95' issue of Sport Compact Car
Formerly owned by Thomas Ernst
87' ShelbyZ "BEE-ACH" NEW RECORD! 13.882 (AT) 101 (DOT) 80! Yoko AVS Intermediates to 32psi
for a 2.3 60ft, 13psi of boost. 3120lbs Race weight.
Spokane, Wa
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